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140/70 vs 150/70 rear tire

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#1 ·
Being new to racing there are a lot of things I am still learning. i bought the original size tire for the race. 150/70 I couldnt get comfortable during practice, the bike felt really heavy and I was having to force the bike into the turns. It didnt feel natural. At first I thought since I just got my new cartridges installed maybe they were not set properly. So I took the bike back to the paddock and had our master suspension guy reset everything sag from the bike and rider sag. Everything was correct after checking. I had just bought the set 2 days before the race. $310.00 a lot to spend on tires. Our mechanic told me to stop complaining and buy a 140/70 tire and try it out, he was getting frustrated as I made him check the suspension again. So I bit the bullet and spent another $215.00 for a 140/70 rear. More expensive since I am at the track already. We got the new tire on warmed up the bike took it out on the track and couldnt believe the difference going to a smaller tire made. It was like the bike was on rails, it dropped into the turns with ease. I guess sometimes you need to learn so you never forget. What I should have thought about was I used my N300 140/70 on the bike when I went for my track days. I just couldnt get it in my head that 10mm would make that much difference. TRUST ME IT DOES.

Here is the 150/70 tire after 5 outings in 1 day. No matter how hard I tired I couldnt get to the edge with out the bike feeling like it wanted to fall over.





My 140 tire after 5 outings, 2 practice, 1 qualifying and 2 races. As you can see all the way to the edge.



 
Discussion starter · #4 ·
@SDM! one thing I remember from a German Aprilia-Forum is, that the guys over there in the race use the following combination
150/60 rear then the best for the front is the 120/60 (the standard rims are 3 inch front and 4.5 inch rear and yes, even when the standard-rim for the 120/60 is 3.5 inch, the 3 inch is also ok and even allowed from the German TUV, if you know what that means).
The 120/60 lowers the front by 5 mm.
140/70 rear then the better solution is the 110/70 in the front, but all of them say that this combination cannot compete against the series 60 tires.
But at least it depends on you what you like better.
Bro your full of information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. If the tires were cheaper I would try that set up 150/60 & 120/60, that of course will depend on if they are here in country. There is only 1 place that stocks tires for racing and they keep in stock what the racers are using. The other places special order the tires in and its really expensive as they do not offer a racers discount.
 
Discussion starter · #16 ·
Tyre wear looks good. Interesting that you find the 160 set up good and SDM prefers the 140. Quite a contrast in opinions.

Hey in what way was your rear moving around? I have a similar sounding problem with my SV race bike. It wags it's tail on corner exit under power. tempting to back off when it is bad. Harder you push the worse it gets. Any thoughts?
Im using 140/70 I think he is using 160/60. I looked they dont sell it here wanted to see the difference between the tires.