[jkat]

There is a product called CorrosionX that you can spray on everything except brakes. It can be washed off after the event. For more info you can check out their web page Corrosion Technologies makers of world famous CorrosionX and RejeX.

 

[JFMNINJA400]

The fastest I have seen on the ODO has been 118mph at the track in NC, called NCBIKE. I was hitting 115mph in the straight fairly regularly. I was in 5th and never hit the rev limiter. I just have to push my braking barrier some and 120mph will be no problem. I will be back at this track in October.

 

[sbk1198]

The fastest I have seen on the ODO has been 118mph at the track in NC, called NCBIKE. I was hitting 115mph in the straight fairly regularly. I was in 5th and never hit the rev limiter. I just have to push my braking barrier some and 120mph will be no problem. I will be back at this track in October.

NJMP and Summit Point are faster so you should be able to hit a few mph more there. About 5-7 mph more than NCbike.



Btw, slightly off topic, but I finally got myself a 42T sprocket and changed it last time out at Summit Point. Shaved another second almost. Based on my data logger it looked like I just improved a slight bit in every turn which added up to almost a second for the whole lap. Hoping for good weather at NJMP this weekend to see what I can do there now.

 

[Kiwi Rider]

The fastest I have seen on the ODO has been 118mph at the track in NC, called NCBIKE. I was hitting 115mph in the straight fairly regularly. I was in 5th and never hit the rev limiter. I just have to push my braking barrier some and 120mph will be no problem. I will be back at this track in October.

They need a bit of room to wind right out. The best Ive seen on the optimistic clock at the track is around 120MPH (I've only had it on track twice) but I wound it out to 125.6MPH (201kph) on the road a while back. Bear in mind these are only speedo readings.

 

[jkat]

Going to run the USFRA meet in the 130 class this year to get sorted out for next year when we plan to run the AMA Land Speed Meet in P-P 500. Cheers

 

[Dgvs]

Last week my AUS 2018 Ninja 400 took a trip in the trailer up to Lake Gairdner, South Australia to the salt flats attending the annual "speed week", alike to that of Bonneville, though in the middle of the Australian outback.

The conditions of the salt weren't ideal with it being a little damp in the mornings making it hard for the bike to pull it's tall gearing due to the extra surface area on the tires, alongside cross and headwinds down the track throughout the event not helping the case.

Timing at the salt is the average speed over a mile, in contrast to a speed trap or GPS which only logs the top speed that is achieved for a split second, of which my 400 pulled 123.170 MPH at an average for a flying mile on flat ground, so a TRUE speed reading.
Timing gear was Tag Heuer, top of the line in the way of this equipment, the average speed is dead accurate so no arguing with the quoted number. (Timing slip pictured)

For those wondering, highest recorded speed noted on the speedometer (as that's what everyone quotes) was 213 KPH (132.35 MPH), although this doesn't mean a whole lot as it's inaccurate and has little meaning in relation to the real average speed without a GPS reading, it's just a number you and I see when we ride that we can all relate to.

The bike was mostly all stock including ride height, body panels, tire and chain as it ran in the production class (500 P-P) and these could not be altered, with the exception of headers, gutted stock muffler, DynoJet PC and air filter.
We ran Unleaded 91 which ran perfectly and made the most power for all the runs.

In the way of gearing, we ran multiple combinations of which included 15,38 which the bike pulled to red line, 16,38 which pulled to just over 11,000 RPM and 17,38 which was a little too tall and pulled to just over 10,000 in top gear.

We also had a chat with Ronnie from BC Performance at the salt, who happens to work on the WorldSSP 400's with Kawasaki, who was a great help and lent us a 17T front sprocket to run (yes it fits, just) so thank you to them.
Ronnie also stated that the speed that I ran on the 400 was a fair bit greater than that of the WorldSSP 400's, which I'm stoked about.

A big thank you to my sponsor CoffeeSnobs for the ongoing support of the bike's build and salt entry, also to Penrite Oils for supplying our bikes fluids and lastly Dry Lake Racers Australia (DLRA) for hosting and running this extraordinary event.

Aforementioned, the highest true, accurate, average mile speed achieved was 123.170 MPH, only 0.004 MPH off the 500cc Production class record, despite the other bikes in the class being 25% larger in capacity to our 400's.

So, feel free to challenge my unwarranted claim of "World's fastest Ninja 400" which I'll say is unassisted as it was on complete flat ground unlike the YouTube videos we've seen, where it's either a 650 or downhill with a tailwind.
I'd also say this is an accurate number for the bikes top speed as its mostly stock, especially aerodynamic wise.

Maybe a 400 with higher HP output than Australia may be able to pull greater numbers than I have. Although for now I'll stake my claim.

Needless to say I'm rather impressed with the performance of our little machines, far exceeding my expectations.
Even if it's not the fastest I had a ripper week away on the salt!

I live on Long Island New York here in the untied states. I just bought a 2021 Kawasaki ninja teal nightshade brand new, just hit 2500 miles on it. I focused on having a good break in for better gas mileage and less issues down the road. I started pushing her and riding it like I would be after the breakin roughly after my first oil change after I think 700 miles I did it. My bike is bone stock and I can redline it with no problem. The entire needle will light red and when it’s fully redlined you’ll feel the bike lose power for a second until you let off or upshift. The bike redlines somewhere around 12,000 to 12,500 rpms. My top speed with good conditions in a flat road has been 124 mph so far. Now I only weigh 135 standing at 5ft 8inches may have something to do with it. I’m a little confused reading some comments stating they can’t redline the bike do they mean in 6th gear or at all lol? I outgrew the bike fairly quick but I will keep it because it’s a fun ride very light and I keep up with my buddies on their 600s you can only go so fast in the turns and these roads here on the island. I’m probably going to purchase an Apprilla 660 just to have something with more power but as of now 125 mph and the light weight of the bike being able to throw it around so easily I’m more than pleased with the 400. By the way power wheelies in first are the best. Haven’t stepped out of my comfort zone to dump the clutch and wheelie it in any other gear yet. So yea bone stock 124 mph is my top speed so far. Happy and safe riding 🤘.

 

[Jim G]

Good work ZED!!!

. . . My dyno tuner never gave me a print out, which I am annoyed. . .

If he used a Dynojet dyno, he still has the file on his hard drive and should be able to print it out for you with no problem, and he can EMAIL it to you as a pdf. If you get him to print it for you ask him to make sure he selects the following slectable features for the printout:

• HP on one vertical axis
• Torque on the other vertical axis
• Both vertical axes use 0 to 50 as their scales
• Horizontal axis for this bike should be 4000 rpm to 12,000 rpm (You want to make sure you get that 4000 minimum so that you can see your available power and torque at low cruising engine speed around town)
• SAE correction to standard conditions, NOT STD correction (STD correction makes the numbers artificially higher by correcting to an unrealistic set of "standard conditions")

Look to make sure that the power and torque curves cross at exactly 5250 rpm. If they don't, he has manipulated the data (to make you feel better about his tune), because torque and power ALWAYS cross at 5250 rpm due to the basic formula: HP = Torque x rpm / 5250

Jim G

 

[OzzyNinjaRider]

Amazing. Too quick for the camera lol

 

[Duckman]

Last week my AUS 2018 Ninja 400 took a trip in the trailer up to Lake Gairdner, South Australia to the salt flats attending the annual "speed week", alike to that of Bonneville, though in the middle of the Australian outback.

The conditions of the salt weren't ideal with it being a little damp in the mornings making it hard for the bike to pull it's tall gearing due to the extra surface area on the tires, alongside cross and headwinds down the track throughout the event not helping the case.

Timing at the salt is the average speed over a mile, in contrast to a speed trap or GPS which only logs the top speed that is achieved for a split second, of which my 400 pulled 123.170 MPH at an average for a flying mile on flat ground, so a TRUE speed reading.
Timing gear was Tag Heuer, top of the line in the way of this equipment, the average speed is dead accurate so no arguing with the quoted number. (Timing slip pictured)

For those wondering, highest recorded speed noted on the speedometer (as that's what everyone quotes) was 213 KPH (132.35 MPH), although this doesn't mean a whole lot as it's inaccurate and has little meaning in relation to the real average speed without a GPS reading, it's just a number you and I see when we ride that we can all relate to.

The bike was mostly all stock including ride height, body panels, tire and chain as it ran in the production class (500 P-P) and these could not be altered, with the exception of headers, gutted stock muffler, DynoJet PC and air filter.
We ran Unleaded 91 which ran perfectly and made the most power for all the runs.

In the way of gearing, we ran multiple combinations of which included 15,38 which the bike pulled to red line, 16,38 which pulled to just over 11,000 RPM and 17,38 which was a little too tall and pulled to just over 10,000 in top gear.

We also had a chat with Ronnie from BC Performance at the salt, who happens to work on the WorldSSP 400's with Kawasaki, who was a great help and lent us a 17T front sprocket to run (yes it fits, just) so thank you to them.
Ronnie also stated that the speed that I ran on the 400 was a fair bit greater than that of the WorldSSP 400's, which I'm stoked about.

A big thank you to my sponsor CoffeeSnobs for the ongoing support of the bike's build and salt entry, also to Penrite Oils for supplying our bikes fluids and lastly Dry Lake Racers Australia (DLRA) for hosting and running this extraordinary event.

Aforementioned, the highest true, accurate, average mile speed achieved was 123.170 MPH, only 0.004 MPH off the 500cc Production class record, despite the other bikes in the class being 25% larger in capacity to our 400's.

So, feel free to challenge my unwarranted claim of "World's fastest Ninja 400" which I'll say is unassisted as it was on complete flat ground unlike the YouTube videos we've seen, where it's either a 650 or downhill with a tailwind.
I'd also say this is an accurate number for the bikes top speed as its mostly stock, especially aerodynamic wise.

Maybe a 400 with higher HP output than Australia may be able to pull greater numbers than I have. Although for now I'll stake my claim.

Needless to say I'm rather impressed with the performance of our little machines, far exceeding my expectations.
Even if it's not the fastest I had a ripper week away on the salt!

What a great result! I bet that was a blast.

But I’m curious about the gearing. Assuming you were referring to tach redline (12k) which I have found is really only about 11.5K the 15/38 should give close to 142 at those revs. At 11k the 16/38 should give about 144 and at 10k the 17/38 about 140.

Is the difference to your actual speed the result of tire slip on the salt? That doesn’t really surprise me if it is. Can you feel it at that speed? Sounds scary to me. 😳😊

 

[Jim G]

. . .
But I’m curious about the gearing. Assuming you were referring to tach redline (12k) which I have found is really only about 11.5K the 15/38 should give close to 142 at those revs. . . .

With OEM tires, the ACTUAL speed at actual 12,000 rpm redline with 15/38 gearing is 147.5 mph. BOTH the speedometer and the tachometer on the Ninja 400 are nowhere close to "true".

With 15/38 gearing, the actual engine rpm at 123 mph is 10,009 rpm.

Jim G

 

[ZED]

What a great result! I bet that was a blast.

But I’m curious about the gearing. Assuming you were referring to tach redline (12k) which I have found is really only about 11.5K the 15/38 should give close to 142 at those revs. At 11k the 16/38 should give about 144 and at 10k the 17/38 about 140.

Is the difference to your actual speed the result of tire slip on the salt? That doesn’t really surprise me if it is. Can you feel it at that speed? Sounds scary to me. 😳😊

Yeah, the bikes tacho is slightly out and reads higher on the dash than it actually is, so you're right there.

Lots of factors into why there's that difference. The numbers you're quoting (I'd assume from gearing commander, great website by the way) don't factor in air resistance etc, so I'd take 10% off to get a more realistic number.

Alongside this, the speed achieved at the salt on the timing slip is the average speed travelled over a flying mile, so there'll be variations there due to a little bit of wheel spin, clutch slip, variations in my tuck or not riding in a dead straight line, hence making the mile longer & slower on the slip.

The only time I lost traction were in the later parts of the week where the salt was chewed up and damp. Occasionally hit a patch where the rear end lit up for a split second, though you heard it more than you felt it.

This was a few years ago now so I don't exactly remember where the revs sat in each sprocket setup, but will hopefully be making a return to next year's event to have another crack. Will get some cameras set up for you guys to see & to document it better.

 

[ZED]

Been pretty quiet on the forum, life's taken over and haven't had the time to be as active as I'd like.

Picked up a set of Spears racing cams for the bike, hoping to get these installed through the Aussie winter as I don't think I'll be getting much riding in.

Eventually getting stacks, the head ported & throttle body work done as well.
Hoping for 60 HP or more before my next trip to the salt & hopefully the record under my belt. Got a few local people I've recently got in touch with who have done a heap of R&D on the 400, so have good people around me to help

 

[Jim G]

. . .
Lots of factors into why there's that difference. The numbers you're quoting (I'd assume from gearing commander, great website by the way) don't factor in air resistance etc, so I'd take 10% off to get a more realistic number.
. . .

Air resistance does not change the relationship between speed and gearing! It simply makes the speed lower than it would otherwise be in the absence of air drag, and of course the tach and speedo readngs both will be proportionately lower. Air resistance cannot change the RATIO between true speed and tach and speedo readings.

For example: If a motorcycle with a 12000 rpm engine is geared so that 12,000 rpm occurs at 135 mph, but the bike can't actually go that fast and tops out at 120, an accurate speedo would read 120 mph at that speed, and an accurate tach would read 120/135 x 12,000rpm = 10,667 rpm.

Jim G

 

[Kiwi Rider]

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Been pretty quiet on the forum, life's taken over and haven't had the time to be as active as I'd like.

Picked up a set of Spears racing cams for the bike, hoping to get these installed through the Aussie winter as I don't think I'll be getting much riding in.

Eventually getting stacks, the head ported & throttle body work done as well.
Hoping for 60 HP or more before my next trip to the salt & hopefully the record under my belt. Got a few local people I've recently got in touch with who have done a heap of R&D on the 400, so have good people around me to help

Sounds like you've got a good plan and you seem focused. Are you hoping to get over there next year? Hard to know I guess in these uncertain times.

 

[Superbob]

Last week my AUS 2018 Ninja 400 took a trip in the trailer up to Lake Gairdner, South Australia to the salt flats attending the annual "speed week", alike to that of Bonneville, though in the middle of the Australian outback.

The conditions of the salt weren't ideal with it being a little damp in the mornings making it hard for the bike to pull it's tall gearing due to the extra surface area on the tires, alongside cross and headwinds down the track throughout the event not helping the case.

Timing at the salt is the average speed over a mile, in contrast to a speed trap or GPS which only logs the top speed that is achieved for a split second, of which my 400 pulled 123.170 MPH at an average for a flying mile on flat ground, so a TRUE speed reading.
Timing gear was Tag Heuer, top of the line in the way of this equipment, the average speed is dead accurate so no arguing with the quoted number. (Timing slip pictured)

For those wondering, highest recorded speed noted on the speedometer (as that's what everyone quotes) was 213 KPH (132.35 MPH), although this doesn't mean a whole lot as it's inaccurate and has little meaning in relation to the real average speed without a GPS reading, it's just a number you and I see when we ride that we can all relate to.

The bike was mostly all stock including ride height, body panels, tire and chain as it ran in the production class (500 P-P) and these could not be altered, with the exception of headers, gutted stock muffler, DynoJet PC and air filter.
We ran Unleaded 91 which ran perfectly and made the most power for all the runs.

In the way of gearing, we ran multiple combinations of which included 15,38 which the bike pulled to red line, 16,38 which pulled to just over 11,000 RPM and 17,38 which was a little too tall and pulled to just over 10,000 in top gear.

We also had a chat with Ronnie from BC Performance at the salt, who happens to work on the WorldSSP 400's with Kawasaki, who was a great help and lent us a 17T front sprocket to run (yes it fits, just) so thank you to them.
Ronnie also stated that the speed that I ran on the 400 was a fair bit greater than that of the WorldSSP 400's, which I'm stoked about.

A big thank you to my sponsor CoffeeSnobs for the ongoing support of the bike's build and salt entry, also to Penrite Oils for supplying our bikes fluids and lastly Dry Lake Racers Australia (DLRA) for hosting and running this extraordinary event.

Aforementioned, the highest true, accurate, average mile speed achieved was 123.170 MPH, only 0.004 MPH off the 500cc Production class record, despite the other bikes in the class being 25% larger in capacity to our 400's.

So, feel free to challenge my unwarranted claim of "World's fastest Ninja 400" which I'll say is unassisted as it was on complete flat ground unlike the YouTube videos we've seen, where it's either a 650 or downhill with a tailwind.
I'd also say this is an accurate number for the bikes top speed as its mostly stock, especially aerodynamic wise.

Maybe a 400 with higher HP output than Australia may be able to pull greater numbers than I have. Although for now I'll stake my claim.

Needless to say I'm rather impressed with the performance of our little machines, far exceeding my expectations.
Even if it's not the fastest I had a ripper week away on the salt!

dAAANG!

Last week my AUS 2018 Ninja 400 took a trip in the trailer up to Lake Gairdner, South Australia to the salt flats attending the annual "speed week", alike to that of Bonneville, though in the middle of the Australian outback.

The conditions of the salt weren't ideal with it being a little damp in the mornings making it hard for the bike to pull it's tall gearing due to the extra surface area on the tires, alongside cross and headwinds down the track throughout the event not helping the case.

Timing at the salt is the average speed over a mile, in contrast to a speed trap or GPS which only logs the top speed that is achieved for a split second, of which my 400 pulled 123.170 MPH at an average for a flying mile on flat ground, so a TRUE speed reading.
Timing gear was Tag Heuer, top of the line in the way of this equipment, the average speed is dead accurate so no arguing with the quoted number. (Timing slip pictured)

For those wondering, highest recorded speed noted on the speedometer (as that's what everyone quotes) was 213 KPH (132.35 MPH), although this doesn't mean a whole lot as it's inaccurate and has little meaning in relation to the real average speed without a GPS reading, it's just a number you and I see when we ride that we can all relate to.

The bike was mostly all stock including ride height, body panels, tire and chain as it ran in the production class (500 P-P) and these could not be altered, with the exception of headers, gutted stock muffler, DynoJet PC and air filter.
We ran Unleaded 91 which ran perfectly and made the most power for all the runs.

In the way of gearing, we ran multiple combinations of which included 15,38 which the bike pulled to red line, 16,38 which pulled to just over 11,000 RPM and 17,38 which was a little too tall and pulled to just over 10,000 in top gear.

We also had a chat with Ronnie from BC Performance at the salt, who happens to work on the WorldSSP 400's with Kawasaki, who was a great help and lent us a 17T front sprocket to run (yes it fits, just) so thank you to them.
Ronnie also stated that the speed that I ran on the 400 was a fair bit greater than that of the WorldSSP 400's, which I'm stoked about.

A big thank you to my sponsor CoffeeSnobs for the ongoing support of the bike's build and salt entry, also to Penrite Oils for supplying our bikes fluids and lastly Dry Lake Racers Australia (DLRA) for hosting and running this extraordinary event.

Aforementioned, the highest true, accurate, average mile speed achieved was 123.170 MPH, only 0.004 MPH off the 500cc Production class record, despite the other bikes in the class being 25% larger in capacity to our 400's.

So, feel free to challenge my unwarranted claim of "World's fastest Ninja 400" which I'll say is unassisted as it was on complete flat ground unlike the YouTube videos we've seen, where it's either a 650 or downhill with a tailwind.
I'd also say this is an accurate number for the bikes top speed as its mostly stock, especially aerodynamic wise.

Maybe a 400 with higher HP output than Australia may be able to pull greater numbers than I have. Although for now I'll stake my claim.

Needless to say I'm rather impressed with the performance of our little machines, far exceeding my expectations.
Even if it's not the fastest I had a ripper week away on the salt!

Daaaaang! I love that paint job! I'm thinking about painting mine this winter, I paint cars for a living, I'm not spray bombing it. Is that paint code 777?

 

[ZED]

Sounds like you've got a good plan and you seem focused. Are you hoping to get over there next year? Hard to know I guess in these uncertain times.

Went with Dad at the start of this year, he took his H2 out for a spin. Not a whole lot of luck, think we ran just over a 200mph average mile, but have some aero changes we need to do before next year. Too much downforce on the rear, ended up with a terrible swingarm angle over 180mph which made the bike really unsettled so we'll likely smooth out the body.

If another outbreak doesn't occur in VIC/SA we should be all good to run the 400 again next March.

Like you said though, still hard to know. Hoping for the best.

Daaaaang! I love that paint job! I'm thinking about painting mine this winter, I paint cars for a living, I'm not spray bombing it. Is that paint code 777?

Yeah mate, just the stock 2018 colour scheme. From memory it's KAW777 or just lime green. Great colour. Would love to see how it turns out if you do it for a living.

 

[Superbob]

Went with Dad at the start of this year, he took his H2 out for a spin. Not a whole lot of luck, think we ran just over a 200mph average mile, but have some aero changes we need to do before next year. Too much downforce on the rear, ended up with a terrible swingarm angle over 180mph which made the bike really unsettled so we'll likely smooth out the body.

If another outbreak doesn't occur in VIC/SA we should be all good to run the 400 again next March.

Like you said though, still hard to know. Hoping for the best.


Yeah mate, just the stock 2018 colour scheme. From memory it's KAW777 or just lime green. Great colour. Would love to see how it turns out if you do it for a living.

I'll post some pics when I get it done, it won't be till this winter. I'm still kicking around a few ideas but it has to have that green!

 

[ZED]

So, no messing about - cams & velocity stacks are in the bike, dialed in and the bike's running mint.

Hopefully put all the fairings back on tomorrow and go for a squirt, see how they perform.

March 2022 can't come any sooner.

 

[sbk1198]

So, no messing about - cams & velocity stacks are in the bike, dialed in and the bike's running mint.

Hopefully put all the fairings back on tomorrow and go for a squirt, see how they perform.

March 2022 can't come any sooner.

Are you not going to get a better aftermarket exhaust??

 

[ZED]

Are you not going to get a better aftermarket exhaust??

Running in production at the salt, so must retain the stock muffler. Have aftermarket headers and the muffler is gutted, so that's the best I can do within the rules.

Ideally I would be running an aftermarket muffler, however it's not feasible in the production class.