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I would never have adaptive cruise control on any vehicle I own whether a car or bike.

We use this in the trucking industry and it's the worst thing ever for so called safety. 🤦
It's faulty and will brake hard for cars turning off the interstate and applying their brakes.
It'll brake when you go under overpasses. 🤦

Worst thing ever in the name of safety.
For a bike I can see it causing all kinds of pucker moments. Nope. Not for me. Ever. 😉
This. I used to work at a Mazda dealership and got to drive a bunch of them with the ACC and had the same exact thing happen, vehicle would see a car stopped at a light during a bend and slam on the brakes thinking it was in the middle of the road. I bought a 2016 CX-5 a couple years ago and specifically looked for a Grand Touring without the tech package so I wouldn't have to deal with that nonsense.
 

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Not my next bike, just another bike I picked up last weekend, I would like to hope my next is something like the ZX4R or a 96' RVF400R or a Ducati V4R......or if we are dreaming the Ducati Supermono :ROFLMAO:
2017 Ninja 300 Winter Test Edition, but never mind the test edition graphics and paint scheme because since it was laid down both sides of the main fairing section took a hit and cracked so 100% track bike is the plan.........so long as once I fire it up she runs good and sounds good(no rocks in a tin can sounds) :)

Excuse the messy garage right now.

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Your definition of "messy" is what my shop looks like after I have cleaned it up!
I would bet the 300 is good to go, engine wise. I would be more tempted to make the 300 my street machine, and the 400 the track only bike. You don't need much power on the street compared to the track.
You already have lots of great track parts for the 400. Throw a set of plastics on the 300 and go track only with the 400! Just stirring it up @b0Xcrash!
 

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Sadly, it has come down to a choice between Cellphones and ACC. I don't want to die due to somebody's need to text midget porn at 70 mph. But if I'm in front of them stopped, I don't get a choice in the matter.

Unless we can ban cellphones, we need AEB (automatic emergency braking) which is the most important feature of automotive ACC. I was testing the Cadillac system a few years ago, it is VERY good. It hammers the brake to the point of ABS pulse, which is harder than the majority of drivers are willing to do. I estimated that only 3 out of 4 parents could hit the brakes to full stopping power on the first try when they KNOW they have to. This was found out during BRAKES defensive driving school.

ACC also comes with some other bonuses: Pre-tensions the safety harness, alerts you to blind spot traffic, and increases the brake system 'boost' to make it easier to apply full braking power.

I for one welcome our new robot overlords ... ;)
I, for one, don't welcome overlords.
I would rather the driving tests be more demanding and driver/rider skills be the emphasis.
In Alabama, I think most drivers and riders received their drivers license as a prize in a box of "Cracker Jacks", rather than earning it.
The reason we have too many idiots and non-drivers out there is only because we allow it to be so, IMHO.
I would love to see a driving license test that required a very rigid training course be it car or motorcycle.
Maybe even an 'Advanced" driver's license, that requires more advanced training and allows you certain leniency by law enforcement?
Reward excellence in skills instead of the punitive system we have now.
BS electronic modules that the insurance company requires you to plug into the vehicle for you to get a discount, or manufacturer's safety electronics? No thanks!
Robotics and/or electronics takes the being on the edge of your skills challenge, and thus the fun out of motorcycling for me.
I can out brake the ABS(on the 3 bikes I have tried it on)due to experience, why should I have to pay to buy it once it is mandated?
I don't want to pay for mandated ACC or AEB either! If I am riding, I understand my life is at stake, accept that, and pay the required attention.
Why should someone get a discount for the lack of skill, attention, training, or simply because they bought a bike with the right electronics the man told them they needed or forced them to have?
My cousin got rear ended a couple of weeks ago on his motorcycle on the interstate and he may never walk again.
That is the risk I am willing to take every time I ride. If the guy that hit him had AEB? Who knows?
If someone hits me from behind, they are REALLY MOVING, or I am not watching my mirrors.
If I am on a motorcycle, I ignore the speed limit signs because I rarely look at the speedometer.
I go a safe speed for traffic, and maintain a cushion in front and back at all times as much as possible.
When I ride on the street, I am bringing my "A" game. If not, I don't ride.
What ever happened to personal responsibility or accountability?
Not directed to you at all personally @McRat , I just had to vent a bit.
 

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My 2014 CB1000R is no 200HP monster....what it is though is a slightly more HP than stock 130 HP deviant that has ZERO rider aides or electronics. No TC. No ABS. No IMU. None of that. It requires a careful throttle hand and concentration. I love it to death and even though I am getting the Beemer, Ill keep the CB and ride it like it was meant to be ridden, Like it was stolen while on fire, running for my life from a pack of Harpies intent on tickling me until I puke.
 

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Your definition of "messy" is what my shop looks like after I have cleaned it up!
I would bet the 300 is good to go, engine wise. I would be more tempted to make the 300 my street machine, and the 400 the track only bike. You don't need much power on the street compared to the track.
You already have lots of great track parts for the 400. Throw a set of plastics on the 300 and go track only with the 400! Just stirring it up @b0Xcrash!
Dang it, just gotta throw a wrench in the works. Lol
It is a great idea though……🧐
 

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My 2014 CB1000R is no 200HP monster....what it is though is a slightly more HP than stock 130 HP deviant that has ZERO rider aides or electronics. No TC. No ABS. No IMU. None of that. It requires a careful throttle hand and concentration. I love it to death and even though I am getting the Beemer, Ill keep the CB and ride it like it was meant to be ridden, Like it was stolen while on fire, running for my life from a pack of Harpies intent on tickling me until I puke.
Love the CB1000R! I have a modded Ninja 1000SX that is right around 150hp and a modded Concours 14 that is around 160hp.
No ABS, traction control, anti wheelie control, etc.
A rider has to learn throttle control on this type of bike to a degree you just can't on a 400.
 

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I would go so far as to say that the lack of rider aides is the best way to learn. Sure ABS is nice but so is knowing how to not panic brake the front lever. Sure traction control is awesome when the roads are first wet and greasy but so is knowing how to manage the throttle. And as for wheelie control.....well..... having a careful throttle hand is nice, did i mention that?
 

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IMHO, learning to ride and learning to drive should both be done without electronic aides. And then after becoming proficient, one should learn how the electronic aides actually work and what they really do. I remember the people who thought that antilock brakes meant you can stop on ice just like on pavement and learned that hard way that ABS only helps control steering.
 

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Nah, what you want is a seventies two stroke with drum brakes. Especially with period tyres.
The infamous '69 Kaw Mach III with it's double leading shoe drum brake, tighter rake, and poorly braced head coupled with the pipest of the H1 engines was very exciting to ride. Even after the disc, steering dampener, more rake, better rubber, flatter torque curve, it was still a handful. I put a Mach III, an H1B, and an H1D into the 12's at Orange County International Raceway dragstrip in the 1970's. I never got a KH500 (last version) out of the 13's.
 
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